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Vespa 946 vs Sprint / Primavera
OP JakeM Addicted
Vespa Sprint Sport S 125cc Joined:UTC | UTCquote Every now and then I come back to considering a secondhand 946. In the UK, they're a 125cc (same as the Primavera / Sprint but obviously a heavier body). Financially, to swap my 2022 Sprint for one, I'd be looking at a 2013 model and I'd have to put a bit of money towards it. Just wondering what peoples thoughts are. Some of the pros I'm not fussed about (rear disc brake and traction control). Some of the negatives are more of an issue (lack of space for my helmet if I park up and go to the shops), and lack of an easy locking system (I currently have the Vespa lock built into my sprint which attaches to the end of the handlebars). I love the design of them, and I love that they're special / unique. Heart keeps saying yes, but head says why are you trying to swap a newer vehicle under warranty for a 10 year old model? Has anyone ridden both long term? |
Yellow300GTS Enthusiast
300 GTS supertech HPE Joined:UTC | UTCquote i'd reallllly want a 946, it looks amazing, but as long as i cant get it in 300, it is off my table!! but if 125 is your right coffe...oh yeah!! |
OP JakeM Addicted
Vespa Sprint Sport S 125cc Joined:UTC | UTCquote I love the fact that it's air-cooled. One less thing to check / maintain and seems more traditional. It might be possible to fit the 155cc American market cylinder / piston, and there's also a higher compression Malossi option of around 190cc - which should nudge it closer to GTS300 performance. But then I don't know if it's crazy to modify a 946! When something is built in limited numbers, it feels like it should be kept standard. |
Yellow300GTS Enthusiast
300 GTS supertech HPE Joined:UTC | UTCquote https://www.vespa.com/en_EN/models/946-dragon/ yeah...i want one!!!....when it gets a grown up engine:) |
Binettasteve Member 300gts super sport Joined:UTC | UTCquote You currently have a 125 cc so there is no issue about wanting more powaaar. Its down to the condition of the 946 bike. I have owned lots of classic bikes ( not scooters) its condition and service / owner history thats most important. Yes its a ten year old bike but if it makes you smile every time you look back at it then go for it. You will certainly have a limited numbers virtually hand built machine, but remember only you and a few other owners will know the difference👍. Last question would there be any insurance issues eg these things are £12k plus when new. Have you run a quick comparison through a compare insurance enquiry yet? Reason I ask I bought a 125 cc Monkey, my insurer Carol Nash refused to cover. About four out of five insurers declined as they are so easily lifted into a van ! |
Dooglas UTC Veni, Vidi, Posti GTS 300ABS, Buddy 125, Buddy Kick 125 Joined:UTC | |
Dooglas Veni, Vidi, Posti
GTS 300ABS, Buddy 125, Buddy Kick 125 Joined:UTC | UTCquote In my own opinion, the 946 is overpriced and underpowered. Swapping a late model Primavera for an older 946 does not sound like a good deal to me - on the other hand, it does highlight just what this question is all about. The 946 is about appearance/image and little else. How important is that to you versus just riding a capable and reliable scooter? Only you can answer that question. |
SteelBytes Veni, Vidi, Posti
2019 GTS300 Supertech E3 57,000km Joined:UTC | UTCquote a negative (not saying it's a big issue) is that it's heavier than a primavera/sprint. 147kg vs 120kg |
adri Atypical Canadian
2009 Vespa S50(LX150 motor swap), 2006 Vespa GTS250ie Joined:UTC | UTCquote 946 is a step down disguised as a step up, and people will pay a premium for that impression. Positive |
utahusker UTC Enthusiast 2024 GTS 300 SuperSport, 2006 Vespa LX150, 2011 Honda PCX 125, 1984 Honda Aero 125 Joined:UTC | |
utahusker Enthusiast
2024 GTS 300 SuperSport, 2006 Vespa LX150, 2011 Honda PCX 125, 1984 Honda Aero 125 Joined:UTC | UTCquote When did a hand built mostly all metal scooter become a "step down"? |
SaFiS UTC Ossessionato 1979 P150X, 1983 P200E, 1987 PK125XL Elestart, 1988 T5, 1995 PX200E, 2011 Yamaha Fazer 600 S2 Joined:UTC | |
SaFiS Ossessionato
1979 P150X, 1983 P200E, 1987 PK125XL Elestart, 1988 T5, 1995 PX200E, 2011 Yamaha Fazer 600 S2 Joined:UTC | UTCquote All Vespas are hand built, especially the monocoque frame, after the robots do their part. The 946 as premium as it's considered, it don't justify the hefty price tag for a few more aluminum parts and the underpowered engine… |
OP JakeM Addicted
Vespa Sprint Sport S 125cc Joined:UTC | UTCquote I guess it does boil down to aesthetics, and I really do love the design of the 946. Power wise, I'm doing ok at the moment with 125cc, and I've enjoyed pushing the limits of what I can achieve on a 125cc - so far I've taken mine on a cross country trip to Italy and back to England. My licence also only covers me on a 125cc. The power of the 125cc engine in itself isn't a problem, but I don't know how much of a difference the extra weight will make in terms of acceleration. I might have to load up the under seat area and a backpack on my sprint, and see if it makes a difference I can feel - or see if I can find a 0-60mph app for my phone and do some back to back runs with the extra weight... |
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